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by caladin 1063 days ago
This comment (inadvertently?) by mentioning those names gives off the impression that this is a partisan push. It is not.

This is an explicitly bipartisan effort. Most recently:

- Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator D-NY) most recently secured funding for UAP Office, and for years now has been writing legislation on the topic which has been passed: https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/gillibr...

- Chuck Schumer (Senator D-NY) in the past few days pushed an amendment for UAP disclosure, with language including things like eminent domain over any recovered UAP craft. It is unlikely this would've been pushed without consulting the white house. https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment... See also: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/us/politics/ufo-records-s...

    Choice excerpt from Section 10a:

    "The Federal Government shall exercise eminent domain over any and all recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence that may be controlled by private persons or entities in the interests of the public good"

    This is from Chuck Schumer, someone that hasn't been adjacent to this topic until now, out of nowhere.
- The late Harry Reid (Senator D-NV) was a huge proponent of pushing for more information on this topic, initiating the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) which was the precursor to a lot of these developments. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reid#UFOs

- Jared Moskowitz (Representative D-FL) was one of the three representatives pushing for this hearing

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The U.S. should always have a program to study UAPs.

UAP is simply unidentified aerial phenomena. It’s in the US’s interests to study such phenomena in its airspace.

For example those Chinese balloons, until they were recognized as balloons, also were UAPs.

Supporting the study of UAPs, including potential alien UAPs, is a far cry from claiming the U.S. govt has found wreckage of alien technology and is driving a worldwide conspiracy along with many other govts to keep this information hidden from people.

How would they establish just compensation for a seizure of alien technology under eminent domain?
The alien and ancient civilization stuff comes mostly from the gop. Rubio isn’t worried about ET - but bullshit like this is appealing to the nutjobs attracted to qanon, etc who vote.

UAPs aren’t little green men. A drone with AI controls fits the quotes description.

Absolutely uninformed take.

- The (democrat) senate majority leader mentioned "non human intelligence"

- Rubio _is_ worried about "ET", per multiple interviews where this is presented as a likely explanation for the observed behavior

- No, an "AI Controlled drone" does not "fit the quotes description", not in the slightest. You are either grossly misinformed about the claims, the capabilities of modern aircraft (black or otherwise), or intentionally misleading others.

Computers aren’t human. Thus, non-human.

If I were a congressional leader, I’d be more than a little concerned about swarms of unidentified drones flying around ships in US territorial waters.

The implication of aliens is a “Lucy with the football” play — a certain number of people always take the bait, and others laugh. It was done in the 50s, again in the 80s when Tomahawk missiles and stealth aircraft were tested, etc. Now the prospect of aliens is covering for some threat.

Lucy In The Sky, With Football