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by gottorf 1064 days ago
> a full scale resurgence of fascism in Europe

This seems hyperbolic. The current spate of "fascist" elected leaders (Orban, Meloni, et al.) don't seem as such to me, though I will admit I'm not keeping a very close eye. Perhaps you know more.

> The thing that’s likely to kill the most people from climate change is how people react to climate change.

I agree. As the human population more than doubled in the past 50 years, climate-related deaths are only a third of what it used to be[0]; not a third of the rate, one-third in absolute numbers. This is mainly due to the increasing material wealth of developing countries that better lets them handle the challenges of climate.

In my opinion, the increasing centralized authority demanded by those that think climate change is a risk so urgent that it transcends legal safeguards against precisely that kind of centralized authority will harm more people than climate change ever will.

[0]: https://library.wmo.int/doc_num.php?explnum_id=10989

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Valid point about hyperbole, but I meant ideologically in the sense that this kind of ideology crept back into the Overton window. The same occurred in the USA and refugee issues were part of the fuel.

Neither Orban nor Meloni are themselves that level of bad. I wasn’t thinking of them but of the discourse.

Now imagine tens or hundreds of millions of refugees combined with massive food cost increase due to crop failures. Orban and Meloni might be way on the moderate end compared to what might surface.