[fps_doug]

I do, and I keep having those tiring conversations, but it's really hard to get the point across in layman's terms. I have enough friends in tech who stick with Chrome out of convenience instead of just falling back on it in case something actually doesn't work in Firefox. how do I convince tech illiterate people of doing this?

[AdamN]

For the tech illiterate recommend Safari. For tech people, appeal to their privileged position and the importance of defending the web by choosing any other browser (or Safari).

Both users can keep Chrome installed as a fallback - that will help with convincing too.

[freedomben]

Didn't Apple implement this same type of thing in Safari a year or so ago?

[JohnFen]

> For the tech illiterate recommend Safari.

That's only applicable to Apple users, though.

[AdamN]

Tech illiterate people should be using MacOS anyway. Windows just gets worse every year. MacOS is actually more like classic Windows than Windows 11 is so it's actually easier to use for tech illiterate people.

[suslik]

And drop my Ublock origin, bypass paywall clean, etc? Hell no.

[timeon]

> Ublock origin

At least there is Adguard.

[jckahn]

You can’t, realistically. I don’t think there’s any repeatable or effective way to make non-nerds (AKA most people) care about this sort of thing.

[Buttons840]

Start referring to them as "Chrome developers" -- what's this "web" thing you keep talking about?

[erklik]

It's faster. The same old justification that was used to switch to Chrome can now be used for Firefox.

[hummingly]

Whenever a new device needs to be setup for my parents, I just install whatever I use (Firefox in this case). Then I show them the things they need on a day by day basis. The problem are people who did grow up with tech. They will say things like it will take too long. In cases like this you need to manipulate them based on their personality.