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by dbcooper 1058 days ago
Anyone tried Kagi's WebKit based browser?

https://browser.kagi.com/

5 comments

Many of the ideas looks like good idea.

Zero telemetry is good.

A suspend feature, like the low power mode, is good idea.

To edit text on page, I think that the web developer menu is many browsers would be suitable for such a purpose, and a separate menu for that seems unnecessary to me.

Allow copy/paste is good, although I would do it a bit differently. Similarly like many spreadsheet programs have the option for manual or auto calculation, to do that for web pages also; if set to manual calculation mode then nothing is calculated or sent to the server until you push send or recalculate, and most events are suppressed, so it cannot prevent you to copy/paste, nor can it spy on data that you have entered but chosen to not send yet. It would also improve speed and less power, and avoid problems with some forms that will put in a number automatically if you erase the number and make it difficult to enter the correct number due to that. So, it would solve ten problems at once.

"Open Page in Internet Archive" may be useful, but seems to me should be an extension rather than a built-in feature (although it could be an extension which is included by default).

However, some things that would be good to have in a web browser would be: User controlled request/response headers (this can make many other settings unnecessary, e.g. language, as well as anything that can be controlled by the Content-Security-Policy header, etc). Add user styles and user scripts (without needing to package an extension). Be able to use native code extensions (which must be installed manually and cannot be installed from the web service). Relative location bar mode. ARIA mode.

I use it daily. It feels like Safari, but with Chrome or Firefox extensions and a decent ad blocker. My only nit to pick is it doesn't integrate with the system passwords, but I moved to Bitwarden a few months ago and that works perfectly. It supports PWAs and nearly no-chrome windows which has been great for a few web apps I use.
I've not heard of this before so just checked it out. Looks quite nice. Amusingly this Orion browser has a far more slick and user friendly first run experience than Arc which is a huge complaint I've had about Arc.
It’s great at least on macOS and iOS.

Profiles on the macOS version made me switch to it from Safari as my daily driver.

I've been waiting on their implementation of Compact Tabs. While controversial for some, I personally feel that the new compact tab designs in Safari are a far better user experience and use of space. Kagi's CEO completely disagrees with this, and they're implementing a design similar to Internet Explorer 9.

I really want to use Kagi, but I think that their design principals are antithetical with mine and may others.

But, I think it's great for a lot of people, particularly those that seek alternative browsers.

Just tried the compact tabs in Safari and that’s a great design!
Yes. It doesn't run on Linux.