[hef19898]

It was four heirs, wasn't it? Charlemagne had two, a split that still shows in Europe to this day.

And I'd hardly say the Mongols failed just because they couldn't hold to western Europe.

[boomboomsubban]

>Charlemagne had two, a split that still shows in Europe to this day.

Charlemagne passed the entire empire to Louis the Pious, and Louis the Pious had three heirs that split the empire. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Verdun

[panick21_]

> It was four heirs, wasn't it?

The direct heir actually didn't split. It was only later the families split.

> And I'd hardly say the Mongols failed just because they couldn't hold to western Europe.

I mean failed to hold Europe.

[hef19898]

I really have to read up on the Mongols, and central asian history in general. That subject is terribly undercoverd in Western history. For somewhat understandable reasons, but still.