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by jojobaskins 1057 days ago
God I hope not... Porn is probably one of the most malicious vices influencing how young people (esp boys) view themselves as shameful and romance as transactional. Technology wise there isn't much to build beyond full games since 360 videos have been around for ages now, just a player would suffice.

Edit: Actually with ai gfs and all that crap there are many dystopian places devs could take this.

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I am wondering as to why you think it is especially boys? Do girls who are completely surrounded by basically nude females with perfect bodies 24/7 not experience the same level of influence?

If anything I would think it would be the opposite, that girls have it the hardest as boys expect all females to look exactly like they do in movies, billboards, porn, etc. Versus males which tend to be not great, but not nearly as bad.

Anyways onto Apple Vision Pro... I do think that porn is an interesting question, I doubt Apple will do it. But whoever does will probably do WAY better purely because porn has been the reason for so many media format wins over the past century.

I think the GP is talking about porn's irresistibility among adolescent boys. Their use hurts both themselves and women, by setting bad expectations. You're actually agreeing past one another.. kind of funny considering all the down votes, especially since down isn't supposed to mean "disagree"

Is the GP violating conversational rules or just voicing an opinion perceived as unpopular?

That makes sense to me, was mostly just wondering. I am not disagreeing, the phrasing was just strange so wanted to clarify.
Social media is definitely worse for girls, but most consumers of porn are boys. In any case, setting clear bounds of interactivity is good and it looks like Apple isn't allowing direct porn experiences on Vision Pro because those apps will available through the app store.
Maybe we stop also teaching that sex is shameful when it isn't?

I really don't think porn is what causing people to think that sex is a shameful act when it is perfectly natural.

Sure there are some valid discussions around porn and body image but so is there with advertising, movies, etc etc etc. It isn't like porn is the only thing pushing the "perfect" body image.

>view themselves as shameful and romance as transactional

No, you can thank social media algorithms on YouTube and TikTok pushing "influencers" like Tate.

They get fed a stream of essentially shitbag instruction videos and individuals trying to be a "role model". They specifically garner audiences of young men.

porn on the other hand has been around even for us millennials and older, we turned out fine. What we didn't have was the Tiktok and Youtube algorithms.

porn has existed since humans were able to draw pictures on cave walls, and on every kind of medium invented since. That "malicious vice" won't go away any time soon
Porn has been VR, and this an AR machine. This could be the robo-gf bladerunner 2049 experience. You're thinking too small.
> Porn has been VR, and this an AR machine.

Apple Vision Pro does both. Even when you're using it for AR use cases, you're seeing reality as captured and processed by the AVP.

Your opinion is probably not popular, but I agree with you.

I was speaking from a purely business perspective, from Apple’s point of view they should do this to sell systems.

For society, I think this is probably terrible.