[unford]

> Just like autogynephilia is used as a reason to deny trans people of transitioning treatment. Yes it is a true phenomenon, there are many self described autogynephiles claiming that is their sexual experience, doesn't mean trans people should be denied their autonomy for it.

Maybe there are psychological benefits to treating these males with hormones and surgery, so they can fulfil their overwhelming fetish.

However, the fact that it is a sexual fetish, for most of these males who desire to be women, is a very good reason to deny them access to women-only spaces, despite their insistence. Not many actual women want to deal with boundary violation of these men imposing themselves where they're not wanted.

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I don't think there's data showing it's a fetish for most trans women, you'd need polling on that. If we assume the hypothesis it's a fetish I would still support people in indulging in said fetish.

I don't think the state shouldn't allow someone to identify as whatever they want as there should be equality in the law in the first place according to the liberal democratic values I have.

I don't think women should have the right to segregate spaces based on femaleness any more than males do. Feminists fought for this for some hundred years and closed many male centric spaces in the process, how come now it's unfair? They're both unfair, either abolish single sex spaces or let's discuss how unequal some demands of feminism are.

If we segregate sexes to prevent sexual crimes why not segregate every other section of people to prevent every other type of crime?