[nprateem]

If there are such markers, the flaw in astrology is not taking into account the hemisphere. Someone born in July would be born in summer in the northern hemisphere but winter in the south, so they can't possibly have been exposed to the same environmental factors growing up.

[Pamar]

I believe that "modern" astrology takes in account the location of birth (latitude and longitude). Of course if you go back to more traditional texts (European or Middle Eastern) they did not really have any concept of this, but on the other hand they were making charts and predictions for people of their own area so it was not a big deal. For them.

[CapsAdmin]

When put like this it really sounds like astrology is just trying to be a tool to predict and explain someone's behavior based on external factors that have a non complex origin.

A more accurate and scientific version would be to be to examine someone's upbringing and life events while using methods from modern psychology.

Note that both methods are kind of cold and one way. You are determined to examine someone else, while the needs of the person you are examining are not important here.

The sane or pragmatic way is just to accept that a person is complex and instead let your internal model of their personality evolve through conversation and shared experiences.

[Pamar]

Yes, thanks for this hindsight.

This is definitely another problem with Astrology as a "cure".

Tarot is a bit different, at least in the way it is used by Jodorowsky and other who were influenced by him. You turn up a card and start answering questions from the "Tarot Reader". It is more like "what do you see in there? who does this figure remind you of?"

[figital]

I was not being as specific as latitude/longitude, exact time of the day, or “planetary alignments” … only the season or birth month (or perhaps week if you want to get loco). Much of the natural world runs on such a schedule (even considering lunar phases). This would be more scientific than the concept of Groundhog Day, but less “scientific” than a farmer’s almanac.

[pyinstallwoes]

But they're exposed to the alignment of the celestial spheres in relation to the Earth the same way. Imagine if the celestial spheres have a particular electromagnetic relationship with the Earth, this dynamic nature is a type of 'song' if you will. That song becomes imprinted. That's one way I've come to understand these views. Then you actually have some semi-modern approaches to the music of the celestial spheres and the orbital resonances being similar to musical intervals.

[defrost]

> Imagine if the celestial spheres have a particular electromagnetic relationship with the Earth

The kind that falls away with square of the distance, where Saturn is far enough away that light takes > hour to travel?

This is very much a [ ... ] and so astrology argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Ya3F6jVFM

[pyinstallwoes]

No, the kind that fills up the entire universe with filaments.

Literally the universal Indra's net:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkeland_current

[defrost]

Birkeland currents flow following magnetic field lines.

The Earth's magnetosphere is shaped by solar winds, rounded on the sunside extending 6-10 x Earth radius with a longer tail opposite the sun that extends up to 1,000 x Earth radius.

The Earth's radius is very small compared to the 1 AU Earth distance from Sun and smaller again compared to the distances between planets.

So, rather than "filling the entire universe" the currents you've linked flow through a magnet field that rapidly dwindles with the inverse square of distance and neither the electric currents nor the magnetic field reach to another planet (nor vice versa).

[pyinstallwoes]

Plasma. It's everywhere.