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by celu 1060 days ago
> A very oversimplified pro argument: if it wasn't for slavery, these families would have generational wealth and better social situations. African Americans in the US ARE disproportionately lower wealth/income and this has CLEAR historical origins.

I'm confused by the pro argument. My known lineage was not enslaved, but my grandparents immigrated with 0$, and my family has no generational wealth and we don't receive reparations.

Isn't being freed from slavery the same as being freshly immigrated with 0$?

Furthermore, there are tons of Asian immigrants that come from a third world country with virtually nothing, but become top earners because of their cultural values of education and filial piety

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> Isn't being freed from slavery the same as being freshly immigrated with 0$?

Well, if you're immigrating, it isn't <country you're moving to>'s fault you have no money.

If you've been enslaved, it's very much <country you were enslaved by>'s fault you have no money.

But it’s not their fault they were born to parents that had no money.
One could argue that despite being free, African Americans still had to work against racism, unfair laws, and a system rigged against them in many ways. Those are things a white immigrant wouldn't have had to deal with, but black immigrants would have. Is the black immigrant excluded or included in any potential reparations?
> Isn't being freed from slavery the same as being freshly immigrated with 0$?

The US economy, and hence those immigrants, were better off, because of the gains made from slavery.

By that logic, African-Americans also benefit from that economy, and ironically the gains made from slavery.
Not as much as white people did, and still do.

PS your terminology shows your biases.

I’m being called biased by a user with the name snot rocket. What’s wrong with my terminology?
rocketS. Plural.
Your grandparents chose to immigrate.