[t0ps0il]

> I'm not sure why you're saying Swift is locked in to Apple platforms, it's definitely cross-platform

I think the key word in OPs comment is "effectively".

The tools for building cross platform Swift exist and work in various levels but they aren't at the point where you would want to choose Swift over existing cross platform tools.

[wilg]

That caveat does not match the definition of “effectively” to me.