[CodeAndCuffs]

What does that even mean?! Will this take the Christian path of forgiving our enemies, turning the other cheek, and giving our shirts to people who steal our cloaks?

Is he saying that military AI should specifically target Philistines and the uncircumcised? Will the military AI enslave people but give them the option of freedom or permanent servitude after 7 years?

You can't base something on Judeo-Christian ethics because both the Hebrew bible and new testament are a giant compendium of people disagreeing with G-d and each other on proper ethics.

[plorg]

It could also mean anything from "killing Muslims is fine" to "pursuing a millenialist apocalypse", because "Judeo-Christian" is a political idea more than a moral/ethical or religious one. It contains the idea that Christians and Jews (generally meaning the modern categories) are allies (particularly excluding Islam which contains the same religious origins), but even in that move when people describe something as Judeo-Christian they almost always mean something that is "Christian" or Western European. It is based on an assumption of Christian supremacy where Christianity is assumed to be the successor religion and culture of Judaism. It almost certainly ignores any belief, custom, or practice in Judaism that does not pre-date Christianity.

[tamimio]

>because "Judeo-Christian" is a political idea more than a moral/ethical or religious one.

Spot on! What’s even more ironic is that Christianity isn’t even western or European.

[FooBarBizBazz]

This phrase leaves out the largest branch of the Abrahamic family tree, namely Islam. It also underplays the revolution that was Christianity.

[mighmi]

> largest branch of the Abrahamic family tree, namely Islam

The number of all Muslims only surpassed members of the Catholic church around 2008. There are still substantially more Christians as a whole, including Orthodox and Protestants. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna23885015

Based on current population growth, in the next 10 years, there should be more Muslims than Christians. From wikipedia's chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth#Histo... - 1970: 577mm - 2000: 1.291b - 2013: 1.635b - 2016: 1.8b - 2020: 2b

For comparison, the Catholic church currently has 1.36b members, and Christians overall are estimated at 2.3 billion.

[hdjjhhvvhga]

That's because of the famous concept of Jihad and its interpretation over the ages until today. I bet of the general said, "We are going to train our military robots using Islamic values" that would definitely raise a lot of questions.

[coldtea]

>What does that even mean?! Will this take the Christian path of forgiving our enemies, turning the other cheek, and giving our shirts to people who steal our cloaks?

No, he means more of the Old Testament variety of ethics.

[ben_w]

Great, the AI will be making regular pilgrimages to the (no longer existent) Temple in Jerusalem to offer burned sacrifices.

[pohuing]

In the best case anyways. If there's an issue with Egypt we can expect autonomous bombers dropping dummy bombs, followed by engineered locusts and gene targeted pest.

[ben_w]

By Qetesh, I forgot about that one.

Also better hope the AI doesn't start flinging comets our way to trigger a global flood; the divine rainbow pledge doesn't seem to bind other agents?

[coldtea]

More like obliterating whole cities, Sodom and Gomorrah style...

[bko]

I think you're overthinking it. I think he meant "Judaeo-Christian roots" as a kind of stand in for American exceptionalism that values individual liberties and freedom above all else. The country obviously doesn't always live up to that ideal, but that was the basic idea

He says as much in the article:

> “The foundation of my comments was to explain that the Air Force is not going to allow AI to take actions, nor are we going to take actions on information provided by AI unless we can ensure that the information is in accordance with our values,” Moore wrote. “While this may not be unique to our society, it is not anticipated to be the position of any potential adversary.”

Sure you can use this to dunk on Christianity or America but that's pretty boring.

[hdjjhhvvhga]

On the contrary, this phrase needs clarification, because there is a fundamental difference between the Hebrew bible and the new testament.

A simple example Exodus 21:22-25 says:

"When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Jesus refers to it directly in Matthew 5:38-39:

"You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."

So it would be useful to know what values exactly the general had in mind.

[LegitShady]

Military ai won't mix linen and wool