[sieabahlpark]

Not really? Mileage is probably the single largest thing people care about. If they never have to go to a charger and can just do it at home then it's a win.

Getting an EV with 200 miles that effectively is 120 is a joke. I couldn't even drive to and from work comfortably with that.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

If you daily drive 60 miles (or more) each way to work, you might want to consider your life choices and what they represent. If nothing else, recognize that you're a far, far outlier and that technology and policy choices are not likely to be built around your needs & preferences.

[ke88y]

> you might want to consider your life choices and what they represent

For most people who commute that far, their "choice" is not being able to afford rent anywhere closer where it's sufficiently safe and schools are sufficiently good.

It's also a catch-22 because even if those people could live closer to work, they would then need to park on the street, which would make the range just as -- if not more -- important.

[xp84]

What’s funny is, you’re both wrong and very right at the same time.

I’m sorry to tell you, only crazy outliers commute 100+ miles roundtrip to work (feel free to prove me wrong with real data) so current gen EVs are just fine in range for mainstream[1]. Just as some people NEED a snowplow attachment on their car because they live on a 5 mile driveway in the mountains, or NEED a v12 engine to pull a 20 ton RV, you will always have special needs with that commute.

But!! As far as Americans tending to absolutely obsess about range you’re right. Even dozens of non-outliers I’ve heard worrying themselves sick about “what if they do that road-trip they’ve been meaning to do.” And in a country where suburbanites buy $90,000 pickups and never even get the bed dirty with any kind of cargo, people will be buying vehicles with odd priorities in mind like the once-yearly road-trip.

[1] they’re not fine in infrastructure though since owning one without at least some home garage charger is certainly worse, and tens of millions of Americans live in apartments with garages and carports not even remotely equipped for even a handful of residents to electrify, and others just have to find a spot on the street. This is the thing really capping adoption today.

[panick21_]

> Not really? Mileage is probably the single largest thing people care about.

And yet in lots of places we are 30% of total market and its growing.

Mileage isn't actually that important because most people don't actually need it very much.

Yes, if Tesla had some uber mileage car that would be nice, but that's not actually where the main market competition and limits are.

[theshrike79]

My EV has a WLTP of 300km. I can count with my fingers the times I've had to stop to charge it during my regular life. Half of those were just this month because I'm on my summer holiday.

All other times the car is sitting and charging while I'm doing non-driving things anyway.

[mowse_winded]

Range is find, if charging time was equivalent to filling up a gas tank and if EV chargers were as common as gas stations.