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by Paul-Craft 1060 days ago
You make it sound like it's a matter of academic freedom. It is not.

Do you or do you not think that it should be acceptable to use language like "d4mn j3ws" in an academic forum?

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I remember a short time when posting "hacked materials" was a thing people were up in arms about, but that ship seems to have sailed.
What are the hacked materials in this case?
The IP address <-> post link that required a lot of CPU to brute force.
You mean the publicly posted IP address <-> post link? That's not hacking.
That's sorta like saying that running JTR on password hashes doesn't amount to hacking.
Except that isn't what's happened here. What's been published in this case, to use your example, is akin to someone saying "If you use this particular format in john, you can identify 4chan users." Nobody who knows what they're talking about has ever considered anything like that egregious; what's egregious is the idiotic self-rolled crypto that these researchers have exposed by doing so.
> Do you or do you not think that it should be acceptable to use language like "d4mn j3ws" in an academic forum?

Of course it's not acceptable. It's not acceptable for any academic to disagree with me period. All those posters need to be rooted out, fired, and blacklisted.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you need to have a little more empathy for those aren't part of your "white boys club." Don't you think women and minorities need to know if their colleagues are posting their horribly sexist and racist thoughts online? Read the examples in the paper and then tell me that the colleagues of these people don't have a right to know.
Well, if you don't mind being harsh, I'll tell you this: In your woke-scolding, you are assuming the both the gender and race of the person who you are replying to; probably based on a single comment.
IIRC this is a private forum frequented by academics, not an academic forum. That is an important distinction.

Should that sort of language be "acceptable?"

Well, I find it absurdly distasteful.

But clearly it's acceptable to some people.

Outside of the bounds of legality, you don't get to decide what is or is not acceptable for other people when it comes to speech.

The hell I don't. I, and society, judge people all the time. That's how the real world works.
No, sorry. You don't get to excuse 3000 years' worth of antisemitism with a Wikipedia link to a nursery rhyme.