[maxxk]

> git, for all its issues, is not bundling the kitchen sink.

It doesn't bundle the kitchen sink in its native *nix environment, but for Windows it does. Git installer is > 50 MB, including (if I remember correctly) even a terminal.

While you can download Fossil as a 3.3 MB standalone binary for any supported platform.

[fbdab103]

Let's not forget how long it even took for there to be a reasonable Windows build of git. Git implicitly relied on significant amounts of Linux tooling which required bringing over an entire Mingw environment.

[justincormack]

Er, it was written by Linus for use in Linux...

[casey2]

>lets not forget I'd gladly take a FOSS Visual Studio on Linux. Heck, I won't even hold a grudge if it's under 60MB. Promise.

[abwizz]

60megs?

that'll bareley hold the latest styling theme package thingy

[op00to]

I don’t develop on a machine where this matters, even at scale. Who cares about a 47MB difference on machines with a few gigs of ram?

[abwizz]

for scale you usally want things to be efficient. and caring about caching effects is not seldomly the lowest hanging fruit.

[nickpsecurity]

I used to try to make tools fit in cache, esp L1, because they'd load and run a lot faster. Lightening fast!

Try that to see if it still works on the newer machines.

[taneq]

"You're using Windows so you obviously want an entire mini-Cygwin type environment for your source control software"

[herewulf]

Actually I do to save me from the deprived interfaces the OS ships with.

The Git install is one of the best Cygwin-likes I've encountered. It has the majority of tools needed and reasonable integration with the host OS. Very nice for getting something done quickly on any random Windows box.

[taneq]

It's fine if you don't have anything else installed already, but I have MSYS2 installed so it'd be nice if it were optional. Realistically an extra 50mb is not going to materially affect my life, but it's still aesthetically displeasing.

[GabrielTFS]

I agree - that's why I use the git package in MSYS2, which afaik is just as capable (and makes it much easier to use git with the full array of UNIX tools I might want to use that don't necessarily ship with Git for Windows).

[hot_gril]

I remember people installing git-bash and putty for Windows in computer science class to fill in all the gaps. Idk what the deal was with that cause, uh, why would I use Windows.

[willdr]

But on a developer machine this doesn't matter does it?

[NikkiA]

Actually it does, because with the windows git it includes it's own copy of ssh and bash, both of which will clash and fight with msys and/or other ssh installs - including the copy of ssh that microsoft themselves tuck away in \windows\system32

it's quite 'normal' for git-for-windows' ssh-agent to completely disable ssh-agent from working properly system-wide because it ends up pointing things at the wrong ssh-agent.

[willdr]

But a developer isn't using Windows.

[flohofwoe]

Pretty much all game development still happens on Windows because that's where all (or at least most of) the gamedev tools and middleware libraries are.

[TillE]

It's also where 99% of businesses are, client-side. Not everything is Electron or the web.

[tempodox]

Let's narrow that down and say they wouldn't voluntarily. But you obviously never heard of that adversarial entity named IT Department.

[matheusmoreira]

If only that were true. Linux really should be the developer's system but for many reasons it isn't for a lot of people.

[maccard]

That's a very naive view.

[jdrek1]

That's a pretty ignorant view, there's tons of developers using Windows. If you take a look at the SO survey (or similar ones), Windows has 47% in the "Professional use" category.