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by throwaway09223 1061 days ago
"A lot of people will die as places become uninhabitable for a very very long time"

Places will become uninhabitable, but what's the argument for "a lot of people will die?" These are gradual changes we're talking about. People will move.
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CatWChainsaw 1060 days ago
People will move to places that already have people - people that want to protect their resources, and will react with hostility to climate refugees. It's already happening. Pretzel logic doesn't change that.
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throwaway09223 1058 days ago
Well, this is certainly not a strong position to argue from.
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CatWChainsaw 1058 days ago
Ah of course, my mistake; throwing migrants, regardless of their legal status, back into rivers to let them drown, or sinking their boats, or depriving them water in historic heatwaves where people get second-degree burns from pavement surely isn't indicative of how things will play out once things get even worse.
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throwaway09223 1058 days ago
No, it isn't indicative at all.

The vast majority of immigration occurs without incident and there is no compelling evidence that this will change in the future.

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CatWChainsaw 1055 days ago
Twenty years ago these stories were not commonplace. The three I listed are from the last couple of months, and considering I could list them off the top of my head, it's more like last couple of news cycles. Not to mention the surface temps of the oceans are getting to be in the 100s fahrenheit, which wasn't predicted until closer to mid-century. They are indications.

No compelling evidence like the increase in global population, global temperatures, sea level rise, extreme weather events that cause greater amounts of people to be permanently displaced, political sectarianism, authoritarianism, extremism, and violence; and the concordant decreases in democracy, due process, habitable land, resources, and the ability of institutitions public OR private to handle the uncertainties. Because there's an "absence of evidence"? Because it would be a "black swan event"? Because it would be... unprecedented, perhaps? Have I made my point or do I need to keep going?

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CatWChainsaw 1053 days ago
I'm going to go on anyway. 50 whales got beached and couldn't be returned to the water and so had to be mercy-killed. The UN secretary general said that the era of global warming is over because the era of global boiling has arrived. I'll keep you updated as long as the post remains open for comment!
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