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by psd1 1069 days ago
Another way to look at it is that the dating asymmetry comes from risk asymmetry. The big risks are pregnancy, violence, and slut-shaming, and those fall far more on females than males.

- Pregnancy is a solved problem in humane technological societies.

- Violence by men against women could be ameliorated significantly by teaching boys better and prosecuting sex crime better.

- Slut-shaming is just jealous recidivist authoritarianism.

Knuckle-dragging conservatives on power trips are the issue.

Your average redpilled incel would get more of the sex they desperately crave, if they (and society at large) stopped making sexual friendliness such an unappealing strategy for women.

That said, to suggest that it's feminists' duty to give men more pussy is a rebarbative position to find yourself in, so... maybe time to rethink?

At the very least, have the honesty to weigh the negative of not getting your ding-a-ling wet against the negative of possibly being dumped in a ditch with bruises on your neck.

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I've often wondered if/how education of young men relates to violence against women. I've no experience with the conductors of this activity, at least AFAIK, and I find it hard to believe that it's an issue that could be impacted by schooling. My school life featured no direct education about this topic, but I came from a high-trust small community, so maybe I'm missing the bigger picture. Do men just see women as less human, leading to this violence?

Are there reputable sources for this connection, or is it a folk myth? Given the heat of the topic, I don't trust myself to find such a source without going down rabbit holes.

Hmm.

"Another way to look at it is that the dating asymmetry comes from risk asymmetry."

That sounds plausible, but I don't think that actual data from dating apps indicate that women really choose their dates by their perceived safeness. It seems that they do prefer younger, hotter and richer dates, which does not necessarily correlate with low risk. "Being very obviously harmless" does not seem to be a good male mating strategy on Tinder et al.

(I am not really inclined to fight a culture war right now, but data is valuable. And I fully understand that people in general are attracted towards better looking peers.)

Dating is not particularly dangerous for women. When women get murdered it is most often by their long term partner, by an ex, or stalker.

Guys can be real jerks when online dating, but it's not true that women are likely to end up in a ditch because of a coffee date gone awry.

Throw a rock in any direction and you'll hit plenty of women who had unsafe dates.

Stop being dismissive.

The risk a woman takes on by going on coffee date in a public space is minimal. Instead, women should be (and usually are) on the alert for indicators that guys don't respect boundaries or get pushy/aggressive when they are told no.

When statistics on violence against women get misrepresented that doesn't do anybody a favor. Only people who have an accurate picture about where the real dangers are can make good decisions.