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by azatom 1062 days ago
I have no idea how to put it in words and I am far from bashing it, I like it, admire it.. but.. it seems vaguely divergent styles, stil what it bugs me after seeing lots of these images, it seems "boring" (again i don't know how to phrase it).. if i see an image in the wild i can guess it is generated by midjourney.
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>after seeing lots of these images, it seems "boring"

Midjourney very much has a style and like looking at the front page of ArtStation while the images are of a high “quality” in the technique sense, the artistry of them is pretty low.

Very rare to see an image that will surprise you on ArtStation, just a sea of orcs, elves, guns and spaceships in the same “painted” yet completely uninteresting style. Same for a MidJourney output, all very safe, all the same tricks to provide “impact” yet all utterly boring.

You can't generate anything "unsafe" with it. Its keyword filter won't let you.
"Safe" doesn't mean non-pornographic, it means not artistically interesting.
Pornography is not the only thing that's censored there. Any kind of nudity, violence, blood, some politicians and other things like that are banned too.

https://aipromptsguide.net/list-of-banned-words-in-midjourne...

I know exactly what you mean even though I basically disagree. While in some pictures, one can really "tell" by picking up on some unconscious "artifacts" or patterns. Uncanny valley stuff. On the other hand most are just too good, which I egocentrically assume is what you also mean. (or at least it makes sense from my perspective)

This leads me to believe that a lot of people may share your view and thus steer the upcoming popular visual styles into the opposite directions (the pendulum). Maybe more abstract / gritty / grunge / minimalist or messy. I've seen a similar development in music and it steered the popular audience to the stoner rock genre for a while, simply for being the opposite of the currently popular in multiple ways.

Good for Ilford, I bet. Film in the '20s is in a great place to lean into the trend.
Midjourney gives little control to artists and straight up ignores prompts. You can't customise it with different loras and checkpoints. There's no controlnet. It's tuned to "look cool" not to output what's actually in the prompt.

For example - if you prompt "low poly castle, isometric". The output wont't be low poly or isometric, but something that "looks cool".

This is why people are hyped about the new SD XL. It understands prompts much better than previous iterations of SD and Midjourney. And it can be customised and extended. Can't wait for the full release, Controlnet XL and other extensions.

>>if i see an image in the wild i can guess it is generated by midjourney

That's because of default settings, it's not a limitation of the model. I get Midjourney magazine for $4/mo; curated examples are quite amazing.

Are these human-created images less boring? https://dribbble.com/shots/popular
I like the cat on the doorstep. But that's 100% a style I see appropriated by stable diffusions.
More boring, only because dribble's popular page is UI mockups.

A better comparison is this vs artstation.

Would be fun if someone made an online game where you try to distinguish AI and human generated art. I'm confident I would do much better than chance, but I'd be curious to see if people can reliably get 90%+