[catchnear4321]

> …isn't taking advantage of what's offered around them.

is that not an absurdly slippery slope?

what if rather than anyone having to take advantage of anything, things just worked better, and everyone agreed that such things matter?

[yowlingcat]

Everyone agreeing to not conduct financial crime would be nice, agreed, but there would be no societal need for common law and court mediated legal relief.

In lieu of that, how would you envision any society arriving at such an end state?

[catchnear4321]

by starting

[yowlingcat]

Starting is necessary but not sufficient to arrive at a durable steady state. Sorry, that isn't good enough.

[catchnear4321]

who said it was?

[boondoggle16]

Then we would live in a high-trust society, like the United States and Europe used to be 100 years ago. Or like Singapore is now.

But we don't, and never will again, for very complicated reasons.

[scarface_74]

> Then we would live in a high-trust society, like the United States and Europe used to be 100 years ago.

The United States didn’t even “trust” Black folks enough to allow them to drink from the same water fountain, live in the same neighborhood, go to the same school or be part of the financial system as late as the 60s.