[gorkish]

I was suggesting "Just use contactless" for customer accessible payment terminals. Want to use something less secure and more likely to result in fraud? You can hand your card to the cashier or walk inside instead of paying at the pump, just like you do with any non-card payment already.

The EBT, gift card, and lazy small banks would get their act together pretty damn quick, I'd wager.

[MBCook]

“Sorry. I know you’re on assistance because you can’t afford food, but for your security we’re not going to let you buy food with your government benefits as you may become a scam victim.

Come back when your state government decides to pay to re-issue every card with better technology.”

That’s cruel. The move to EMV was only recently mandated for EBT (if I remember correctly and it was done at all) because so many people were having their benefits stolen by mag stripe skimmers.

You can’t use a stick against powerless people to affect change. It just makes them suffer.

Even if Target did mandate contactless, the stock would plummet on news of all the lost sales and the CEO would be out. The new one would reverse it immediately.

[gorkish]

Where did I suggest this? The customer payment terminal is not the register. Both have card readers; one is fantastically less likely to be tampered with than the other. There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting your cashier in between the customer and a potentially fraudulent payment. What happens when that person gets their EBT account drained by a criminal because of a skimmer? I'm not trying to marginalize anyone; get real.