[ngrilly]

I'm a bit skeptical about having one more solution in that space, considering that 1) password managers built in OSs and web browsers are becoming better and better (for example the new version of iCloud Keychain) and 2) passkeys are coming.

[noirbot]

1 there really requires you to be all-in on an ecosystem though. Have an iPhone but use Windows/Linux? Doesn't really matter how good iCloud is if you can't get it to sync your passwords easily to half of your devices. I suspect Passkeys will be a similar issue that further pushes people towards single-ecosystem life, unless I'm missing something.

[ngrilly]

I agree with you, but I think a majority of users are fine with being on one ecosystem, as long as it is convenient. iCloud Keychain works on Windows and Chrome using an extension provided by Apple. It is possible to login using passkeys on another device outside of the ecosystem by using QR codes.

[noirbot]

Oh sure, but that's not necessarily Proton's market - that's what I'm pointing towards. There's a group of folks who are both most likely to use a password manager, and also don't necessarily want that password manager attached to their Google/MSFT/iCloud accounts.

[ngrilly]

You're right, that's a very good fit for Proton's users.