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by za3faran 1073 days ago
> Working on a cross-platform project where in Go, I write code and it just builds

I've worked on large golang code bases that had to build on bazel, and I had the same experience fighting it. It has nothing to do with the language.

> In Java, I fight with Gradle.

So gradle's issue, not Java's. See above.
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maccard 1073 days ago
Pretty much every golang project I've ever touched builds with `go build`. Most that have makefiles just call `go build`, and the makefile is more for building docker containers, or doing infra-related things. If a project is in go, 98% of the time `git clone XXX && cd XXX && go build` will work.

That is absolutely not the case with C, C++, Java, python.

> So gradle's issue, not Java's. See above.

The issue exists with maven too, but _not_ with go build, which is OP's point.

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adrianmsmith 1073 days ago
> If a project is in go, 98% of the time `git clone XXX && cd XXX && go build` will work.

I can’t speak for the other languages but I reckon this is the case for Java projects. Git clone, cd XXX, mvn clean package.

Potentially messing about with whether you have Java 8, 11 or 17 installed which saddens me to mention. But if you are into Java, you have them all installed already, and just need to make sure the right one is activated when you do the above steps.

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tredre3 1073 days ago
> I've worked on large golang code bases that had to build on bazel, and I had the same experience fighting it. It has nothing to do with the language.

So you deliberately added complexity instead of using Go's own build system and it didn't work out well and that's somehow a proof that Go's cross-compilation story isn't as great as people say?

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za3faran 1073 days ago
It wasn't my call on what they did, and they had their reasons (running one of the largest golang monorepos on the planet). My point was to show that this is a build tool issue, not a language issue.
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Mawr 1073 days ago
The way you use the language has everything to do with the language. It is the language.

A language is a product, and the programmers writing in it are its users. The same way any other product works.

Would you be okay with buying a Tesla without the capability to charge at supercharger stations? You can only charge at home. The supercharger network is not literally part of the car after all!

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