[LargeDiggerNick]

What happens if you just do it anyway?

The fine for not having a permit has got to be cheaper than 4k.

[tony_cannistra]

It's $5k, actually. You can also go to prison. https://www.fs.usda.gov/lei/forest-rules.php

[LargeDiggerNick]

I looked through that site and didn't see any fine information. Am I missing something?

[tony_cannistra]

I found that right at the top.

   The Secretary of Agriculture's regulations (36 CFR 261) provide in part for regulating the occupancy and use of developed recreation sites. A violation of these regulations is subject to a penalty of not more than $5,000 or 6 months imprisonment, or both.