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by IG_Semmelweiss 1066 days ago
Good observation.

I believe Duty and Obligation are in deep decline in the west.

Exhibit 1: Doctors being told that they can take time off from hospitals "to cope with the attack on X (x = current police brutality victim, unfortunate bystander, or neighbor dispute gone wrong)" , instead of doctors treating dying patients in ER, helping patients cope with pain in ICU, etc.

Exhibit 2: Cops failing to actively protect citizens and prevent crime (during protests, for example) because authorities have made it clear they will get sued/fired/lynched/prosecuted for doing so, and they are afraid to go against the system that pays them.

Exhibit 3: Same as (2) , but teachers in public school doing nothing to protect bullied kids

Exhibit 4: US military in forever conflicts causing an all-time low in voluntary army recruit numbers.

This is the west today. We reap what we sow.
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toomuchtodo 1066 days ago
You get the systems you build. If you underpay people, don’t respect them, and don’t provide them with authority (teachers specifically from your example), they will check out or leave professions entirely. People have options.

See: shortages of everyone you mentioned. They owe us nothing, we owe them if we want the system to work.

> I believe Duty and Obligation are in deep decline in the west.

This sounds like collective entitlement. You don’t sacrifice when you’re not valued. That’s just exploitation.

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IG_Semmelweiss 1066 days ago
Great example of my point.

I didnt build this. Neither did you.

But here is a certainty, if you individually play out this line of thinking in the aggregate, it sums up to "i dont care if it is not to my benefit" as a society.

This line of thinking is THE problem. This decadence is new and its accelerating.

Duty is doing the right thing regardless of how hard it is or whether it benefits oneself. Thats a basic show of respect.

How much you would propose to pay doctors on top of what they are already paid since they are 'underpaid'.

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How much do you think the founding fathers were paid ? What amount you think it made them feel "valued" so much so that they were ok to potentially, lose their houses, farms, and get their family killed for their work

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