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by scarface_74 1069 days ago
Enterprise/CRUD devs - where the overwhelming number of developers work - are making between $80K - $170K in most major cities in the US.

That’s what I did the majority of my career so it’s not meant to be an insult.

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I live in a US metropolitan area with 2-3 million people, at a Fortune 500 company.

Junior/associate devs, hired out of the internship program usually, can make less than $100k TC (some even make less than $80k). Most of them say it is hard to live on that salary with an apartment, car, student loans and wanting to have a life.

Most of the standard SWEs make more than $100k TC. I've been told the TC for standard SWEs maxes out at under $170k at our company.

Seniors TC starts around $140k, and goes up above $180k.

Leads/Principals I'm not as sure of. Maybe for every 20 associate/SWE/senior we have one lead. I believe their TC is north of $200k.

As the standard dev is either an SWE or senior SWE, that band is probably $100k-190k. With some associates/juniors making less, and some leads/principals making more.

The H1Bs make about 10-15% less than the non H1Bs.

In India, if our programmers make the equivalent of $30k that is a lot. The company wants to hire more Indian programmers but there are timezone problems, language problems, skill level problems and other problems.

These people do a valuable job, I'm not trying to insult them. I'm only providing my observation and theory for why large non-software companies do not hire and pay software engineers the way that software companies hire and pay software engineers.