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by lisasays 1061 days ago
I have not called on Ukrainians to lay down their arms.

Right - it would be impolitic to say this directly.

What you are doing instead is (effectively) calling for the cessation of all military aid. Which would inevitably force the Ukrainians to do just that, shortly enough thereafter.

And saying stuff elsewhere like "it certainly would have been the prudent thing to do for them", referring to the prospect of their capitulating in the early stages of the war.

So at the end of the day - this is precisely the outcome you're lobbying for.

It was very much not the intention of Russia to get into such a fight, they made that clear.

One would have to be absolutely deluded to believe this.

Or more simply - paid to pretend to.

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Which would inevitably force the Ukrainians to do that, at some point.

Of course. Welcome to the real world.

Without Western help this would have happened within weeks or months and would have spared so many. The terms would have certainly disappointed Russian (but also Ukrainian) nationalists. No “Regathering of the Russian lands”, not even close. In typical Putin fashion, the terms would have been fairly generous and conservative and satisfied few.

There probably was another chance for a relatively advantageous settlement in autumn 2022. “Position of strength”, at least politically. But then you got greedy.

Well, here we are. Wunderkätze got put down unceremoniously. Have a plan B?

One would have to be absolutely deluded to believe this.

Come on, you’re not even trying. Your side spent the better part of 2022 making fun of Putin’s “impotent bluff”. It’s either-or.

Have a plan B?

Seems you've found yourself a pretty nifty one:

Bait, bait. Evade, evade. Troll, troll, troll.

Thank you for countering the propaganda <3
>> Without Western help this would have happened within weeks or months and would have spared so many.

Genocide won't spare anyone.