[seclorum]

Its America we're talking about here, where every single US President of the last 100 years has been responsible for the mass murder of innocents...

[rooshdi]

I'm not defending the war crimes of the US either. All I'm saying is do not conflate lying with the obviously more extreme act of actually killing people.

[seclorum]

I agree, you can't say they're equivalent acts, but its no surprise that lying happens after killing ..