[yodelshady]

Who do you think cover any and all negative externalities when wind and PV combined "fluctuate" to pretty much zero for a solid 96 hours, as happened in the UK in winter 2021? Batteries for that scale are a simple fucking lie.

The non-intermittents get to name their price. Except for nuclear, of course. EDF were forced to sell at 45 Euros / MWh when the market rate was over 600 last summer, because the private sector is more efficient, so can't be allowed to compete with reactors whose capital cost was paid 40 years ago by a government.

The whole European energy system is a fucking mess, trying to ignore this obvious fact that grids cannot be allowed to fail. Now, go to an manufacturing conference in Europe and the atmosphere is a fucking funeral. Try selling to customers when your plant produces half of what a US or China plant does, at irregular intervals, because it's at the mercy of metereologists. Go on. Try it.

[konschubert]

Easy. Hydrogen.