[kaycebasques]

I live in "the outside lands" [1] so I see them all the time. I think they do a lot of testing out here. I can only think of one time that a Cruise acted erratically and put me on guard. But honestly they drive so gradually and predictably that I am confident I could have got out of the way. I don't recall a single sketchy moment with a Waymo, but I'm a Googler so maybe we just chalk that up as incentivized blindspot and render that as inadmissible in the court of HN.

On the other hand, every day I see human drivers needlessly endangering themselves and others. Every. Single. Day.

Maybe the equation changes with more robo-drivers and less human drivers. I would take the other side of that bet any day.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outside_Lands

[runeb]

I moved here from Europe and I am absolutely shocked at how reckless the drivers are. In the old country I think I saw a car run a red light once in 20 years of driving. Here is seems I see it every other day.

[koheripbal]

"Europe" is very vague when it comes to driving. Italy and Greece and all of eastern Europe have some of the worse (aggressive) driving on earth.

[jahnu]

Anecdote: I drive in Italy at least once a year and never found it particularly bad or aggressive. I’ve driven in Greece too and also found it normal.

Data: Both are substantially safer than the US

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic...

[gonehome]

Yeah, the US is also mixed given its size depending on where you are.

The most dangerous driving I’ve witnessed was in Jamaica and the UAE, but that was a while ago.

The US does seem somewhere in-between those and Europe/uk.