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I mean, not "all the evidence." For one thing, China doesn't deny that the camps exist--they just claim that they're for "reeducation" or "work training." For another, other people have reported on the issue, and shown that the camps are real.

Unfortunately, while I can present sources to rebut you, your claim isn't falsifiable, since you'll just assert that any source that I present is "US counter-intelligence / the thinktank blob," because it rebuts your claim.

[inconceivable]

yeah, sorry, the media and the blob feeds us bullshit 24/7, on pretty much every topic. i have no reason to believe they're being truthful on this one particular thing, especially about america's biggest geopolitical foe. i mean wow, how convenient. china is run by literal NAZIS? you don't say!

they bank on the fact that people have the memory span of a hamster and will forget the 75 years of complete horseshit that was fed to us before the current thing they're trying to sell.

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> i have no reason to believe they're being truthful on this one particular thing

The problem is that your claim is unfalsifiable. Any evidence that I present, you'll claim is wrong, because it opposes your view. There are independent groups that went to China to investigate--you'll claim they're just CIA-funded. There are groups from inside China that have investigated this--you'll claim they're also CIA-funded. And the "evidence" that you present to back your claim is that they must be CIA-funded, see what it is they're supporting!

I'm not claiming that the media tells the truth. What I'm claiming is that your position is not based on evidence.

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good thing is, youre in a public space and this conversation is viewable by everyone, not just the person you are responding to that you so graciously have written off entirely.

so go ahead, shut the book on this for all of us. show us the evidence on this shocking genocide that no actual muslim countries believe is happening, that has zero noticeable macroeconomic or demographic indicators, that unlike every other genocide in history has not led to any mass migration to neighboring countries, that the US state department does not officially recognize.

camps exist for reeducation and suppressing terrorism. they employ heavy-handed techniques that offend western sensibilities. this is not denied and is a response to violent separatist activity that the US helped illegally and maliciously bankroll. this is viewed as a necessary evil. none of this is "genocide." It is also far more effective and less destructive than the response the US had to Muslim extremism.

[inconceivable]

neither is yours. it's just something you read about, and choose to believe. at this point if you choose to believe the US mainstream media doesn't march in synchronicity to orders from on high, i don't know what to tell you.

this is just gell-mann amnesia projected into another dimension. it's not about the thing you know - it's about the thing you hate, the group you hate, the people you hate, or want to hate.

besides, you can just call me a ccp shill wumao tankie or whatever and pull a little unfalsifiability of your own. all the cool kids are doing it, you should do it too.

[DropInIn]

Wholesale refusal to parse the material at all is no better than willful blindness, if not worse.

At least with the latter you arent simultaneously ingesting and spewing forth propaganda from foreign power and nefarious interests....

[FactKnower69]

Adrian Zenz is incredibly trustworthy and reliable as proven by all these other sources which I can't show you because, uhh, you wouldn't believe them. 30 minute old account nervously shuffles through pile of 15 printouts with Radio Free Asia letterhead while trying his hardest to maintain a smug expression

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Unfortunately, my printer ran out of ink 14 printouts in. If only the Radio Free Asia logo didn't have so much green in it!