[ageitgey]

I'm a CTO of a Series A start-up with open dev roles posted. Right now, my inbox is completely overwhelmed with emails from outsourcing companies offering to do the work. So based on that data point, I'm guessing there is a lot of competition for general outsourced work right now.

Part of this might because a lot of new start-ups got into this space during 2020-2022 acting as a light middleman between overseas devs and US-based companies while not providing much besides facilitating payment. So you have all the traditional outsourcing companies fighting it out with all the newer companies in an economy where spending is way down overall.

All that being said, it seems like great experienced devs in Eastern Europe are still getting snapped up quickly.

[ciguy]

I get the same emails. Everything you said makes sense. It's interesting to me that there seems to be little internal appetite for talented devs in those regions. It seems like they could create some really amazing software products if the domestic talent was put to good use and paid fairly.

[HeyLaughingBoy]

I worked for an engineering services company that had a client in India. It made no sense to me: India is such a big hub for outsourcing talent at much lower cost, so why wouldn't they stay local?

It turned out that US engineering talent was considered to be higher caliber, and being able to say that their product was developed in the USA gave them more access to Indian investors.

Who'd a thunk it?

[fatnoah]

> Right now, my inbox is completely overwhelmed with emails from outsourcing companies offering to do the work.

I'm getting dozens of emails and phone calls plus a few LinkedIn connection requests daily. It's a far, far, far greater number than I've seen anywhere in the past. I'm used to a few every week, not a near constant stream.

[fxtentacle]

Same here

And we don't even have any job openings posted. We used to get applicants for non-existing openings in broken English straight from India... and now we get applicants for non-existing openings in ChatGTP English straight from India ^_^

My impression is that since mid 2022, there are A LOT of outsourcing companies who urgently need something to do.