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by jacquesm 1067 days ago
You break the cycle by sticking to your principles and when you leave you leave and 'stay left'.
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It also helps to delete your account when you want to leave.

That’s what I did when I stopped using Facebook years ago. Deleted my account completely. All data gone. Profile gone.

If he had deleted his Twitter account then all followers would be gone and there wouldn’t be so much point in coming back.

In some cases even deleting your account is not enough. For example I recently deleted my Reddit account, but I still come back to check the posts on Reddit now and then.

I tried to run a Lemmy instance but got hit by a wave of bot accounts, so I turned off my Lemmy instance for now. When I have time to get it back up and running then hopefully I can get more real people to come join the instance and the I can stay active on my Lemmy instance instead of continuing to read posts on Reddit.

At least I have stopped posting to Reddit though. So I am not providing their business with free content anymore. But still providing them with my eyeballs for their ads for now.

In the case of Twitter, people who had a lot of followers and were frequently tweeting would probably be better able to leave if they deleted their accounts. And as a bonus thanks to recent changes if you delete your account you can’t even read Twitter anymore, since reading requires that you stay signed in. So in a way Twitter helps people when they want to leave, as long as people do their part and delete their accounts.

A way to further help breaking the cycle could be deleting the account. Probably it would avoid the sunken cost fallacy.
I did just that with Twitter. But HN plays it smarter, you can't delete your account. But one of these days...
I've had this with other platforms before:

  - Change your account email. 
  - Change HN password with password generator (don't' record it)
  - Log out.
The account and info are still there, but at least you can't get in! Obviously if they later introduce account deletion you've retroactively made a small mistake.
Why leave HN though? It’s nice here
It is. But it also eats up time, and that's your most finite resource.
Relaxation and contentment (times when you don't feel the urge to be productive) is actually the most finite resource.
That's a fair point. Off to play the piano :) (thanks for the reminder)
Changed my password to a really long random string.

Still, here I am with a new account…

HN could milk the whales by monetizing deleting your account and individual posts. The higher your karma, the more it costs.
Hehe, don't give them any ideas. How are you otherwise? I should come and visit. Or you should come and visit. Or both!
If you really wanna, you can ask manually for deletion and they will do their best to comply if you justify why you need to delete it.
It shouldn't need justification though. And it really should be automated.

Apparently the YC lawyers are convinced that the current mechanism is GDPR compliant, I'm not so sure about that.

You can also actually just ask dang for it via email, and if you've good reasons for it they will remove it.
Why should you have a good reason? It's your data, fullstop.
Because there's no automated system, (and I guess, since there's not lots of requests, no need for it)

And so for you to want to utilise a finite resource (moderation time) for something that should benefit you, you better have a good reason for it?

Why should companies go above and beyond to comply with laws that don't affect their country or business doings?

The only reason a US company might comply with EU directives, is if they plan to do business in the EU, not if they're storing data or not from an European citizen

My solution was to not make a "I'm leaving for X" post but rather "I do most of my social media posting on X now" post. I do still make a few posts on Twitter but not nearly as many as I did before.