[GenericPoster]

But you are an adult and you don't have to support or pay for any of these products if you don't want to. It's simply a design choice. The same as if someone would choose python over c++. Maybe by your standards it's a poor choice but if it's making them money then there's no problems. There is a demand for uncensored models but its just not profitable.

[selfhoster11]

That's a completely nonsensical argument. OpenAI and Anthropic are THE duopolists in this market, period. Nothing else comes close on most metrics.

Saying "it's simply a design choice" is like saying that wearing wooden clogs around the city is a "design choice" because the only other two companies that know how to work with more advanced materials refuse to sell you shoes because of a moral reasons.

[GenericPoster]

What a terrible analogy. First of all, the two best shoe companies are selling the SAME shoes to everybody, they aren't denying you service. You just don't like the color that it's being sold in. You willingly choose to wear wooden clogs and then complain that they won't sell you the shoes that they are selling to everybody else. The entitlement not just in this comment but in the entire thread is ridiculous.

Secondly, they are private companies selling non-essential goods. Using their models isn't a right. If they want to lobotomize it and make it as pg13 as possible, that is their right. They aren't doing anything against the law in regards to discrimination. If you want to use their toys, you have to play by their rules. Yes they have the best toys but you don't get to cry about it and force them to change their rules. It's such a simple concept and it's hardly new.