[dspillett]

> and blamed that a lot of people are taking the sources and not contributing back

Yet when commercial entities take code and don't contribute back, it is “just how things work”.

While I appreciate that RedHat has been a good player overall compared to many others, this comes across as the kid at school happy to throw icy snowballs at everyone else moaning because they got hit by return fire. How unfair of the open source world using open source licenses the same way the commercial world does.

[drumhead]

They contributed because it's in their best interest, and they also took down a route with Systemd that went against the philosophy of nix systems. If we're not careful we'll end up losing control of Linux or large parts of it to profit seeking corporations that don't have the free and open software movement on their agenda at all.

[dspillett]

I didn't at all say they had been perfect community members…

Also, they didn't exactly force systemd on everybody. Must as you might not like it (I'm not its biggest fan, but mainly due to being old and familiar with what came before). Other options are still commonly available if it offends you overly.

[op00to]

Oh no! They went against the PHILOSOPHY OF UNIX SYSTEMS. Please tell me why that’s even relevant to the conversation.