[PakG1]

Interestingly enough, it's the a-holes that seem to be getting the most credit and rewards in recent years. Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, all the populist elected heads of state, etc. The kind people seem to be the losers in recent history. Wish it were the opposite.

[coldtea]

>The kind people seem to be the losers in recent history.

You mean like back when it was kind people and not warlords, and rich scum, and Genghis Khan being the winers?

[vacuity]

Recent history, so maybe Jimmy Carter.

[coldtea]

My much older examples are on purpose.

Meaning "this is the case only on recent history? What about those examples from thousands of years ago".

[vacuity]

Ah, I misread. I doubt there was such an extent of political and corporate corruption or anything analogous. Maybe that isn't fair for me to say as I'm a product of recent history.

[astrange]

Those people weren't assholes and successful at the same time, it happened in different phases of their lives.

(I think it's notable Steve Jobs's largest business successes happened after he got married.)

[NL807]

Because they are more visible due to their flamboyant personalities. I think this was always the case historically.

[_a_a_a_]

selection or reporting bias. You don't hear of the arseholes that fail.

[PakG1]

The ones that had a chance? Sure I do. The ones that didn't have a chance? I don't hear of the kinder people who failed either.