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by jackhack 1072 days ago
My mother was a banker. She asked a hypothetical question of me, 30 years ago, that I've never been able to answer: "Name for me one company that was better, for the customer or the employees, after a merger."
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This was an acquisition, not a merger, but if we misquote your mother a bit to fit this situation: YouTube?
YouTube’s algorithm routinely drives people to more and more extreme content and is designed to be as addictive as possible so that users don’t leave. A lot of this is the result of Google’s acquiring them. I’m curious how you think it’s better.

Let me also be clear that it’s not like it was squeaky clean and friendly prior. But to say it has improved since the acquisition…I’m having a hard time seeing that.

The acquisition by Google happened 18 months into YouTubes existence. It's been 18 years since then. I don't know if you really recall what a site was like 18 years ago.

Besides that, what Google provided was hosting infrastructure and legal protection. Otherwise they would have been sued into nothing and couldn't have afforded to serve video.

Early on YouTube was basically a repository of commercial copyrighted material. Widespread home video was not really a big thing at the time.
Honestly I did not realize that acquisition happened so early in YT’s existence. That’s on me I suppose.
It's understandable. It was originally allowed to be its own thing. There were several iterations of it being brought into the Google fold, and it would be easy to mistake any of those for the acquisition event.
It's full of residential trash burning videos.

They film themselves burning residential trash and teach others "how to save money at the dump" doing it.

Each one of them pollutes more than an entire city.

I've reported them, because those activities are illegal, and YouTube keeps the videos up.

The comment I'm responding to asked if either the customer or the company were better after the merger.

Google's (and YouTube's) customers are advertisers. Advertisers are certainly better off with the scale and reach that Google juiced YouTube with, and Google earns about $15B annually in revenue from it.

So, I'd say both conditions are met.

Sounds like the algorithm has learned that you get really fired up about residential trash videos.
youtube is significantly worse other than maybe in stability/uptime.

remember google tried to force that weird google plus login instead?

and now it’s so corporatized/ad filled

In no world would Youtube be even remotely profitable without advertising. Google ran it as a $B+/year loss for years before managing to making it profitable.

Tell me now a believable alternative growth story for Youtube where Google didn't buy it and the service isn't "corporatized" and not losing money.

You can't compare an unprofitable small-scale startup product to what the same product needs to be to make it 1) planet-scale and 2) profitable.

Yeah, without an acquisition, YouTube doesn't exist today. And most acquisitions would have turned out far worse than the Google one did. (See Evernote...)
When you consider the alternative is no youtube at all (remember, they were hemorrhaging money), everything you described doesn't seem so bad.
Apple/NeXT
NeXT acquired Apple
I argued the same on here 12 years (and three days) ago, and got some hilariously snippy responses.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2732235

Didn't the Sprint/TMobile merger provide a real competition to the AT&T/Verizon duopoly?
Madrigal Electromotive GmbH.
Airbus?
I've been through several and in my case it's 0 for 4
Washington Mutual
Martin-Marrieta?
Lamborghini?
Surely this supports the poster's statement - they went from the Miura and Countach to todays RGB gamer mouse mobile with a Volkswagen drivetrain - a true Shakespearean tragedy
I like the mainstream Lamborghinis today better than Countach. They’re just with the times and you like a classic Lamborghini.
Mercedes/Benz?
Why do you think this was a merger or an acquisition?
"Why do you think this was a merger or an acquisition?"

The reason I think it was a merger is, that it was a merger.

"The first Mercedes-Benz branded vehicles were produced in 1926, following the merger of Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler's companies into the Daimler-Benz company on 28 June of the same year."

Mercedes was a car name from the Daimlers side of the merger (from a car seller and racing team) - so it was Mercedes-Benz.

Why the downvote?
Austria-Hungary
That wasn’t really a merger, more like a renaming