[Luker88]

I have a Thinkpad p16s (amd 6850U), and while it's overall a good laptop, I would not recommend thinkpad again.

Aside from a hardware defect at the beginning (cpu cooler not correctly installed), they disabled S3 sleep in BIOS after an update and sleep is sill broken. Unless I boot with `processor.max_cstate=1` the graphics lock up ~once a day (even if you keep it idle and on AC), and resume is more miss than hit.

It seems to be a known and ignored bios problem. (Some say on windows, too. I didn't check)

Wayland/sway might be less capable than good old X on resuming from graphics lockup, but I really disliked Thinkpad BIOS this time.

[zargon]

This has been my experience with my T14s Gen 3 (6850U). S3 sleep is no longer available, and S0 sleep fails to resume at least once a week. Even in Windows (10 and 11). I eventually got them to replace the machine with a new one, and it has the same problem. Otherwise I like the laptop. But the inability to wake from sleep cancels anything good about it and makes it not much more than a paperweight.

[ysleepy]

I have the P14s with 5850U and the S3 sleep is available when setting the sleep mode to "Linux" in the BIOS, maybe they removed that in newer models though.

[fbdab103]

Am I falsely remembering the world, or was there a time when sleep really did work fairly reliably? The new sleep states seem strictly worse with multiple issues.