[ssss11]

This aging topic is very important. Re: stock markets, economies need to shift from eternal $ growth to share holder wallets, to providing equitable outcomes for all people and the planet - that will be very interesting to watch, i can’t see it going well.

[defrost]

Small Is Beautiful: A Study of Economics As If People Mattered

    is a collection of essays published in 1973 by German-born British economist E. F. Schumacher.

    The title *Small Is Beautiful* came from a principle espoused by Schumacher's teacher Leopold Kohr (1909–1994) advancing small, appropriate technologies, policies, and polities as a superior alternative to the mainstream ethos of "bigger is better".

    Overlapping environmental, social, and economic forces such as the 1973 energy crisis and popularisation of the concept of globalisation helped bring Schumacher's *Small Is Beautiful* critiques of mainstream economics to a wider audience during the 1970s.

    In 1995 The Times Literary Supplement ranked *Small Is Beautiful* among the 100 most influential books published since World War II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Is_Beautiful

[nine_k]

This seems somehow unrelated.

It's not about scale, it's about balance. You can run a small an beautiful country with zero economy growth and zero decline, all in a perfect balance, and 70% of population younger than 65. Everything works out.

But when 50% of the population is older than 60, the picture changes a lot; the percentage of economically productive population is much lower, and the need to care for people who can't sustain themselves any more grows. Take a look at how Japan fares today.

[defrost]

Fair point, in hindsight it seems I may have thrown this book recommendation in under the wrong comment.

It's relavant to this Ask HN question at large as we very much need to move away from blind pursuit of unlimited growth in population, resource consumption, waste byproducts, etc. and address the question of how to live well within our means.

Aging population demographics is a challenge, but one that we must address and then move beyond to a move persistent and sustainable low term distribution.

As for the current situation, I am 60, my father was born in 1935 and lives here in the same town as I do. He takes meals on wheels to the older folks who aren't all that mobile (yes, he's almost 88, walks 10km per day, and maintains a 15 km long section of a 1,000 km long walking trail) which is indicative of the entire community which has the highest median age in this country.

There is scope to employ able older people to look after less able older people which gives provides purpose, companionship, and reduces the demand for younger pople in care roles, etc.

This is not a full solution but it is a partial path forward.

[pixl97]

We'll we're going to have to learn how to deal with it.

At the start of the 1900s the world was set for a population boom and overshoot. We went from families having 6-12 children to 2ish children in a few generations. This is going to lead to those 'boom' generations having a far older population and there is not really anything that can be done about this unless you want your population to continue growing forever.

[dools]

You might be interested in the work of Steven Hail and Gabrielle Bond. There's an online course they run through Torrens University that covers a lot of this stuff:

https://www.torrens.edu.au/courses/business/economics

[bequanna]

> to providing equitable outcomes for all people and the planet

The top 10% who hold essentially all the wealth in the world have very little interest in that goal.

[ssss11]

Yep 100% agree. Unfortunately

[candiodari]

Problem is, if you're being fair, the 90% bottom that will actually have to do the work, also don't want to care for elderly.

A decent fraction would need to become nurses, and frankly, with less pay/worse conditions than they currently get. A small fraction will need to study a lot more so more treatments can be provided, which requires doctors and researchers. And we'll all have to do with less (much less) because this will cost a lot even disregarding wages.

[atoav]

Given limited resources exponential growth will always hit saturation. It is time we structure out economic systems in a way that aknowledge this reality.