[roenxi]

Although true, it is the "tight-knit" there that is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Europe had a couple of options to merge socialism and migrations:

- US style, incorporate the migrants into the fabric of society by forming detectable enclaves that, nevertheless, don't riot in the streets.

- Focus on cheap energy over environmentalism, allowing everyone to enjoy rising standards of living.

- Migration that cynically but effectively focuses only on skilled migration, forming an over-class of highly skilled and motivated migrants to support the socialist underclass.

The issue here is they seem to be trying to bring in a new underclass, then stomp them repeatedly with COVID policies and living-standard squeezes (look at the cost of energy people, this is a crisis for someone!), then throw the police at them. A bold gambit with questionable prospects.

[0xcafefood]

> US style, incorporate the migrants into the fabric of society by forming detectable enclaves that, nevertheless, don't riot in the streets.

I seem to recall street riots in the US during the summer of 2020. Is the US actually avoiding the same fate as Europe, or is it just not currently at a flashpoint?

[roenxi]

The US rioters weren't recent migrants were they? My understanding is it was age-old class politics.

[0xcafefood]

A lot of the rioting in France isn't by recent immigrants either, but more like second and third generation descendants of immigrants. A lot like the groups rioting it the US.

[selimthegrim]

Noted descendant of immigrants George Floyd, yes. Have you had your morning coffee yet?

[0xcafefood]

I had enough to realize he wasn't rioting in the summer of 2020.

[selimthegrim]

He had been a member of said group though.