[AlexandrB]

> It occurs over several decades, just enough to cause skepticism or feelings of "it's not changing so quickly".

It's also important to realize that this isn't all "natural" skepticism and there's plenty of money being thrown around to spread FUD about the causes, severity, and consequences of climate change.

[userbinator]

Skepticism isn't the problemj; blind belief is --- and there's plenty of money being thrown around to do that too.

[phs318u]

Except it isn't blind and it isn't belief? A hypothesis that has been amply supported by decades of evidence of many forms is hardly a subject for "blind belief".

[photonerd]

Yes, but mostly on the denialism side

[userbinator]

Judging by the posts here and in mainstream media, I doubt that.

[mngnt]

Consider the economics. There are HUGE companies with a history of influencing legislature, lobbying an lying to everyone, whose existence depends on us to continue not caring about climate change. People like us can hardly imagine the amount of money they are throwing at us in the form of marketing, lobbying, astroturfing, etc. They are literally making money off us not taking action.

Otoh, I cannot think of a single billion dollar company that got where it is by being climate friendly.

[userbinator]

Media companies get views by being sensationalistic and spreading paranoia. Governments love that too, since it means another excuse they can use to enact more authoritarian policies. The Internet has taken that to the next level.

[defrost]

I'm not a fan of Greenpeace and I haven't checked their number here .. but it passes the "it'd be at least that much" test for order of magnitude:

    Koch Family Foundations have spent $145,555,197 directly financing 90 groups that have attacked climate change science and policy solutions, from 1997-2018.

https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/fighting-climate-chaos/climat...

My main quibble is that as I've been around geophysical energy and mineral exploration since the 1980s I'd argue that Koch and Co. started funding anti-climate change think tanks and policy groups a lot earlier than 1997.

They've been prepackaging all manner of FUD talking points and passing them out to media groups for almost 50 years.

They torpedoed any chance of decent widespread public transport in the US, simply to keep the demand for individual freedom loving liberty driven gas guzzling high and profits flowing.

It's remarkable how easily led by the nose central north americans have been.

[photonerd]

Based on the posts by denialists here repeating literally 30 year old paid for talking points—that we’ve had exposed in court filings—as of they were new or profound…?

Gonna have to disagree with you there champ.