[jb12]

In the past two weeks in San Francisco, I have seen:

- Cruise car stopped dead in the middle of Oak street at Divisadero, at night, with no emergency lights on.

- Waymo car driven onto the sidewalk to pick up a passenger on Scott street at Haight street

- Waymo car stopped, blocking the whole road on Carmelita street because it started a 3 point turn and then decided it didn't have enough room to continue

- Cruise car swerving out in front of traffic from the kerb on Divisadero at Ellis street without signaling

[LightBug1]

I think we'll see more of this as AI matures.

It's getting more and more difficult to distinguish between human and AI drivers.

[liaukovv]

Next thing you know they'll be cursing at you using speakers

[LightBug1]

I'm looking forward to the first full-on high speed police pursuit of an autonomous Waymo through downtown San Francisco ... (== turing complete).

[Rumudiez]

missed opportunity for "touring complete"

[yowlingcat]

This sounds like a great premise for a video game not unlike Crazy Taxi, but from the perspective of a highway trooper who needs to chase buggy autonomous cabs.

[jstarfish]

This was more or less a series of side quests in Cyberpunk.

[elliottkember]

Alan Touring: Full Self-Racing

[sidewndr46]

including the passenger trying to cancel the fare and the car saying "I'm sorry Dave I can't allow you to do that"

[Syzygies]

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" is the actual quote from 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968).

I also love the scene where Dave takes Hal apart. We've always called the first computation the Macaulay computer algebra system completed "Hal's Song".

[salawat]

Kitbashing HAL 9000 and Star Wolf?

>I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

>Can't let you do that, Star Fox!"

Screw it, lets throw in the Car Fax fox as a state trooper, and I'm pretty sure we have a reasonable starting point for a video game worldbuild.

Call it Car Fox.

[pmoriarty]

or maybe a Johnny Cab from Total Recall..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgrvNHjKkY

[dylan604]

I use the "things hardly ever..." quote daily

[resolutebat]

Complete with Tesla Cybertrucks from the 1980s.

[moonchrome]

Do we know when Delamain gets created ?

[13of40]

"YOU SON OF A BITCH, LEARN HOW TO DR-- Sorry, that's on me, let's try a different topic."

[hansvm]

At least when a human is irrationally angry at the fact that I don't have a legal place to drive they just honk and I know to be on the lookout for road rage and other shenanigans. If a car trained on that data is likely to behave absurdly then I can't protect myself _unless_ it has the loudspeaker function to prepare me for its misdeads.

[rasz]

plenty of material available for them already:

High On Life - Bounty Krubis: Drivers Yell and Cuss at Each Other at Highway Traffic Jam Sequence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs945iNyk0g

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

Admittedly, I don’t know what Waymo is (or Cruise for that matter) but if someone told me it was “Uber but they don’t rate their drivers” it would still sound about right as far as human drivers go.

[AndrewKemendo]

Turing syndrome strikes again

[thunfischtoast]

At least they don't confuse gas and brake pedals und break through walls like senior drivers (yet).

[renewiltord]

For comparison, in the past day, Caltrain has killed two people in two separate incidents.

[rcme]

Two pedestrian strikes. Doesn’t seem like suicide has been ruled out yet.

[renewiltord]

Caltrain killed more than one person per month last year. We continue to run it. This puts a ceiling on the economic value of a life in California.

[rcme]

How many people did it kill if you exclude suicides? Jumping in front of a train is a very common way to kill yourself.

[manquer]

I don’t think any comparison other transport/policy is good way to discuss safety , otherwise we will be talking gun related homicides compared to other developed countries or discuss our covid deaths with other countries due to policy decisions.

Self driving like regular transport should have strong regulations and policing , today police is not equipped to handle these issues(tickets?) and there is no strong regulatory body (like NTSB) which is looking into non fatal incidents and that is a problem

[vkou]

Police is currently unable to handle personal automobile use, given how lax enforcement of blatant traffic violations is.

[callalex]

Trains don’t just appear out of nowhere, their trajectory is quite predictable and well documented. If there is a collision it’s pretty hard to blame the train.

[b0r3datw0rk]

humans do this stuff too, its just far more memorable when an AV does it. because inherently you know they will be superior drivers once mature

[pavel_lishin]

But you can tell a human driver that they need to move their car.

[dylan604]

I think you misspelled yell. Has anyone in a traffic related anything ever been told advice? Personally, I've only ever seen (heard) it communicated in a yell

[olyjohn]

How do you expect me to communicate my really good driving advice over my straight-piped big block V8 without yelling?

[DANmode]

They just don't want to miss their limited window on a "didn't hear ya"!

[dylan604]

That made me think of one of my favorite scenes from Labyrinth with the hear no, speak no knockers--"no good, can't hear you!"

[kevin_thibedeau]

Humans have a self-preservation instinct that makes most of them think twice about truly stupid acts.

[vkou]

That instinct seems to go away for ~5% of them when you put them behind the wheel of a automobile.

[flyinglizard]

As if things in SF weren't dystopian enough.