[ImPostingOnHN]

Looks like you've still failed to articulate the credible implied threat Facebook felt from the Biden administration's requests,

or how that ties in with the GOP-controlled senate bringing the CEOs before them:

did they do that because the Biden administration ordered them to, as a result of Facebook ignoring one of the requests?

It's a laughably bipartisan conspiracy theory, and thus nobody would actually feel threatened by it.

[stale2002]

Bringing up an example of something that your disfavored party does, is not a counter argument to the idea that the government pressured companies.

In fact it actually proves the point, you just also thing the other party infringed on people's rights as well.

[ImPostingOnHN]

the discussion is not about that idea of yours, and "the government" is not a monolithic entity

the discussion was around whether Facebook felt there was an implied threat there credible enough to act on it out of fear

obviously, they didn't, and wouldn't, because such a threat would have required that Biden control the GOP Congress somehow, which he didn't

[Clubber]

It's been articulated, you just choose to ignore it.

[ImPostingOnHN]

ah yes, that classic proof, "I already proved it!" [with no citations, while entirely failing to respond to any clarifying questions]

can be applied in all cases!

[Clubber]

First you said articulated, not proof, so you're moving the goalposts to be argumentative and aren't discussing in good faith. Second, you seem to be under the impression that unless everyone caves to coercion 100% of the time, then it isn't coercion, which is obviously a fallacy. Just because someone doesn't pay when they are blackmailed doesn't mean they weren't blackmailed.

Both political parties threatened to rewrite section 230 on multiple occasions. This would effectively bankrupt most social media companies. The fact that you are unable or unwilling see this as coercion is your blind spot, not everyone else's.

[ImPostingOnHN]

You are the one claiming there was a credible threat, so it's upon you to show it.

Empirically, Facebook's denials when it suited them suggests they did not feel any such threat. The fact that they sometimes agreed is not an affirmative indication of such a threat, as they could have easily done so on the merits of the requests.

The fact that the proposed action would require Biden to collude with the GOP congress to censor speech the GOP congress supports most heavily and would never censor, combined with the knowledge of reality that such collusion would never happen, suggests that the threat could not exist even theoretically.

So, now's your chance to put forward an alternative case for there being a credible threat, rather than just an angry dude impotently swearing at social media with no actual power to repeal section 230 short of said implausible collusion. After all, Biden political appointee or not, he and I have exactly the same power to convince the GOP to censor the speech in question: None. Are my angry requests to Facebook similarly plausibly "threatening"? Obviously not.

[Clubber]

Let me restate your position to make sure I have it:

1. Because Facebook didn't comply with every request, they never felt coerced and neither did any other social media company, therefore no social media company was coerced.

2. The Democrats who threatened to repeal or modify 230 and the Republicans who threatened to repeal or modify 230 would never repeal or modify 230 because of party politics, therefore this wasn't a realistic threat and therefore not form of coercion.

Does that sum up your argument?

[ImPostingOnHN]

your argument was summarized above, and it simply doesn't present a plausible scenario:

the dude swearing at Facebook had no power to repeal section 230, no power to control the GOP Senate into doing so, and no plausible path to convincing the GOP to censor the sort of content in question (content the GOP itself supports, content they oppose censoring)

in short: the "threat" you described isn't realistic or plausible, least of all by Facebook, and a claim of coercion requires that the threat be plausible, not imaginary and contrived