[zorrolovsky]

I have the opposite view. No matter what individuals do, they won't turn the system around. Furthermore, a good % of consumption is B2B. There has to be a systemic ban on producing products that threaten the existence of life. Winning money is not an excuse to destroy the planet.

Yes, I know it's utopic, hard to regulate, implement and will never happen. But drastic decisions need to be made. People think we need cars so it's fine to destroy life to use cars. Well, humans lived a good bunch of years without cars, and humans won't be able to live when cars destroy the planet. So stop producing cars, stop producing fuel, and people will struggle but survive. Continue producing cars and fuel, and we'll all perish to greed and stupidity.

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> I have the opposite view. No matter what individuals do, they won't turn the system around

I don't think we have opposite views; I don't think individuals will willingly stop consuming sources of emissions. "Systemic ban on producing products that threaten the existence of life" is what I mean by "turn the global economy into a smoking hole".