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by Awelton 1072 days ago
They could at least have the decency to just secretly do it and then pretend like they aren't, like our government does. This is why physical switches and removable batteries are the only way forward.
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> This is why physical switches and removable batteries are the only way forward.

You'd gain nothing. What are you going to do, remove the battery for a couple hours per day?

And then if there's any crime, the police is going to immediately suspect anyone who had the battery removed from their cell phone at the time, which they can trivially detect.

what is "our" government? this site is worldwide..
Fairly certain you can apply this to nearly any government.
Any government with the resources to do it, probably is.
I like this comment because I always assume a majority of people here are Americans, but I'm not, and maybe it's not true anymore.
I'd be willing to bet that less than half of this site's users are American. There is a huge software engineering community in Europe, for example, and there are more Europeans than Americans, let alone the large populations of Asia, Australia, New Zealand...
Psssssh, everyone knows that New Zealand doesn't exist, it's why it's not on any maps!
I've (unfortunately) got a habit of accidentally assuming forums are "in the US". I think I would put it down to a couple of things:

1. Most native English speakers are in the US, so the accidental assumption that someone is American is more often than not correct.

2. The internal voice that reads text to me has a generic male American accent.

The US is the largest country with english speakers, but it does not have the majority of speakers [1] (just India plus Pakistan have as many). So your assumption would be wrong, even based on statistics.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English...

That's why I qualified it with "native" - the US has by far the most English-as-a-first-language people. In my head everyone speaks like an Anglo guy from Idaho, and since HN is text-only, metaphorically speaking the lights are out, so I'm left without a clue where other people are sitting or where they are from.

In other words, if you found yourself in a dark room with a thousand English speakers who all sounded like Jesse Pinkman, what country would you assume you were in?

I'd be willing to bet that less than half of this site's users are American. There is a huge software engineering community in Europe, for example, and there are more Europeans than Americans, let alone the large populations of Asia, Australia, New Zealand...

English is the dominant second language in the world.

I would agree with that, at least for this site. I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio was 1 to 10, since tech skews it significantly. For example, I work in tech in the US, and the only American I've spoken to today was my summer intern, and - oh hold up, I just typed that and realized she's from Canada. OK, I've been in work meetings all day and I have not spoken to a "US American" during that time. I suspect that other sites, particularly some subreddits, are mostly American, though.
> 2. The internal voice that reads text to me has a generic male American accent.

That's weird and pretty interesting if your own accent isn't a male American accent.

Take your pic, most G8-20 are doing this.
Pick one
Y Combinator is an American company and the website is hosted in the US.
Personally I think that "X is an American site" is over-used and doesn't actually make all that much sense when applied to things that cover general world-spanning issues.

But that's my opinion.

no one implied that, stop being silly
> Y Combinator is an American company and the website is hosted in the US.

What else would this imply?

I wrote a stupid message first that the person above you replied to accurately, I changed my stupid message to be less stupid while still reflecting my opinion on the matter.
What relevance does that have to the question, may I ask. Do you think, for example, that every user of Twitter is American because Twitter is an American company?!
Google, reddit, amazon, twitter, and every meta website too.

This is a dumb observation.

US people needs to stop pretending the USA are the only place that matters on earth.

This article is about France tho.
they have no doubt been doing it, they're just using the panic of a brainwashed population thinking they're on the brink of Islamic revolution to normalize it
At this point, they don't even need to brainwash anybody - they will just 49/3'd the law and say "xxxx it" to the parliament.
Gonna have to agree to disagree.

I feel it's significantly better to know that someone is doing the spying and all that. Why should they hide that they can spy on whoever they choose? When they don't make clear what happens, we end up in a position where everyone's uncertain. And, as history has shown, it makes things significantly more difficult.

There's no decency in that.

> and removable batteries

Probably that's why the batteries are not removable in the phones...

Nah, profit motive by the companies is reason enough.
Or making the phone more reliable, particular in high-humidity climates, where you want to prevent air from getting to the electronics as much as practical.
Meh, phones with removable batteries are still being made. Samsung's Galaxy Cover line has plenty of phones with removable batteries. Some even feature the much feared IP68.