[dmix]

Probably the biggest self-own in recent memory.

I feel bad about the journos/web teams who have to suffer as a consequence of the current gov and the rich Canadian media aristocracy who pushed this through. But I can't say it's going to immediately impact my life. I'm not a particular fan of any of the Canadian media sites besides maybe the hyper local ones like CP24. Nor would I touch the Canadian subreddits with a ten foot pole to go discuss them (some of the worst parts of Reddit).

Canadians are already obsessed with American news/politics anyway. They will just be fed slightly more of that than before on social media.

[brailsafe]

I feel similarly, but I do actually like CBC content usually. It's deeply ironic in my mind that one of the meme mantras of the PCs is defunding the CBC, good job literally every other voting MP except the PCs

[canadiantim]

It didn't used to be, but under the current Canadian government the CBC is intolerably biased towards the governing party

[brailsafe]

Meh, I've heard this claim but it escapes me how that's true. If anything it seems closer to the opposite. Most of the CBC content I see makes the current Liberal government look quite monstrous. Fifth Estate, Marketplace, current events, and almost every debate or interview with a Liberal representative.

[canadiantim]

Simply take a look at the CBC’s latest debacle [1], where the CBC published an incredibly defamatory article against the premier of Alberta in the middle of an election. They of course just recently retracted it, but they will suffer no consequences. The CBC literally tried to pick the premier of Alberta themselves. This is just the tip of the iceberg. See also the Rosemary Barton lawsuits during the 2019 campaign for further evidence of CBC bias towards the current governing party.

The reason why the current liberal government looks quite monstrous even on the CBC tho is because they really are quite monstrous in reality and it’s finally starting to show. Just look at Bill C-18, who’s interests are they looking out for? Not everyday Canadians that’s for sure.

This is a government that on one hand says Meta is an evil foreign owned corporation interfering in our democracy and therefore will end all ads on Meta platforms, but on the other hand, made an exception for itself such that the Liberal Party of Canada will actually continue running ads on Meta because after all nothing is too evil if it helps get them elected. Rules for thee but not for me. A classic Canadian liberal party dynamic. Story as old as time.

[1] https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2023/07/05/cbc-news-retrac...

[brailsafe]

Meh, that doesn't look good, but it does seem like due process was more or less followed, and it's not really unreasonable to think it wasn't a conspiracy imo, it's no National Post or Toronto Star, and they even posted a rather favourable piece on Pollievre last year.

While there is still some degree of bias, that seems like a reach to me, and I'm nothing but a lousy centrist.

[DropInIn]

You ignore all the instances of similar and worse under Harper though, eh?

[canadiantim]

What were the instances of similar and worse under Harper though? There's nothing comparable to the current liberal government - to say nothing of the $600 million slush fund for media organizations (so much for an independent press eh)

[dmix]

Instead of defunding it the Liberals created a situation where the CBC will essentially need gov gibs to survive in it's current state, which will certainly be deemed essential for publicly funded Canadian culture projection (that essential part of modern society). Economic self-owns via gov policy driven by the same small set of private school kids in Ottawa and whining about Americans is Canadian culture 101.

[canadiantim]

The CBC gets a billion a year of taxpayer dollars, plus other perks, so large parts of the CBC do already depend on this largess to survive.

[brailsafe]

Though a billion does seem high, I'm happy with some of my tax dollars going to the CBC