[expertentipp]

17 years old driving recklessly a sport car with foreign license plates, running away from the police. The situation strongly points he is linked to drug dealing, financial scam, car thievery, or all of them. What measures are expected in such situation, what was he expecting to happen?

[hagbarth]

> What measures are expected in such situation

Catch him and run a due process.

[proxysna]

> The situation strongly points he is linked to drug dealing, financial scam, car thievery

How does it point to that? And does that justify murder?

[expertentipp]

Few weeks ago a Polish man was choked to death by 10 Dutch police officers [1] for...running away on a bicycle, and no on bat an eye. I guess this is the new normal?

[1] https://nltimes.nl/2023/06/10/32-year-old-man-dies-arrest-st...

[proxysna]

Does that mean that other deaths should not be protested?

[self_awareness]

Does riding a bicycle with a working chainsaw on a leash sound like a rational protesting technique?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=qUutjFQ3y_U

[proxysna]

Yes.

Yellow vests protested peacefully and that yielded nil.

Pension reform was protested peacefully and that yielded nil.

Anything that makes establishment scared is a valid protesting technique.

[self_awareness]

I hope you'll manage to jump quickly enough before it will chop off your legs.

[pauldenton]

Did climbing through a window justify Ashley Babbitt getting murdered? selective outrage

[giraffe_lady]

Is introducing people to your friends a crime now? Can we defend epstein with this sort of selective paring away of context?

[q87b]

None of these alleged offenses justify punishment without a trial. None of them justify death.

[stronglikedan]

Death may not be justified, but neither were his actions. He put himself in a position where this could be an outcome. I'm not saying it was justified, but it did start with him, not the police. The mere act of skydiving doesn't justify death, but it is a possible outcome nonetheless.

[TuringNYC]

>> The mere act of skydiving doesn't justify death, but it is a possible outcome nonetheless.

Similarly, the mere act of driving with a broken tail-light doesn't justify death, but it is a possible outcome. Now...if someone comes and shoots you and kills you, that doesn't make it right.

Similarly, if someone comes and shoots a sky-diver and kills them, that is also not right, even if there was a possibility of death.

[hagbarth]

I live in a country where being shot by the police absolutely _could not_ be an outcome unless you pose an immediate danger.

[giraffe_lady]

Police aren't a force a nature. A cop made a decision here too.

[aloisdg]

Not being murder.