[verisimi]

Thank you for your thoughts.

I would say that I know lots of people, for a long time - but that doesn't mean I know what they think/intend or do. I don't know that I can vouch for anyone else.

If someone joins a secret society, how do I know what that means to them? Being charitable towards these people (and there are valid reasons not to be) we can say that they may believe that it is perfectly acceptable to withhold information and mislead others, because there is a 'greater good' objective being met in doing so. Ie they think it is perfectly acceptable that I am kept in the dark (for my own good), with no ability to discern things for myself. People in elite positions, with say control of historical artifacts etc, are especially able/liable to take this position. And that is fine.

But it is also fine for me to refuse to accept their information, to refuse to trust whatever they are pushing. When I know they are 'bonesmen', I know that I am unable to discern the reality or truth of what they propose - there can be no trust. What oaths have they taken? Why would they join such a society? Its not just a bit of fun. When they admit they are members of a secret society - and skull and bones is deeply involved in the management of society, counting presidents as members - we can conclude that it is most likely that there are covert reasons for what is done.

Sorry to be crude, but whatever-it-is they they can stick it up their a**. Why trust evidence from people who are untrustworthy?