[leonidasv]

That's why nobody takes the 'fediverse' seriously.

Threads is not the first server being blocked because moderator x don't like the owner of that server. Imagine if signing up for a @gmail.com email meant that you can't send or receive emails from @outlook.com addresses because the owner is mad at Microsoft.

They could have taken this as a big opportunity to make ActivityPub mainstream but nah, let's keep gatekeeping our bubbles. They're the only losing.

[viraptor]

> Imagine if signing up for a @gmail.com email meant that you can't send or receive emails from @outlook.com

This already happens for certain addresses / domains / source ranges. Although most of the time it's some big email provider ignoring a small one.

[zzzeek]

folks are quite happy in the fediverse so I dont really see the "losing" here. if "losing" means not having to welcome an army of trolls taunting them as "loser gatekeepers" then lose away

[leonidasv]

The only way to stay away from trolls is running an instance at localhost without any networking. I thought social applications were meant to connect people.

[ncallaway]

I haven’t had an issue on mastodon with trolls yet. Seems like I’ve been able to connect with people, without really having to deal with trolls.

If that’s losing, then so be it. I’ll happily lose in a smaller community, with people I’d rather talk to.

[gbraad]

Instagram is a more oriented community. I do not care about Facebook, but on IG I have a lot of likewise minded people. Making this into a more sprawling community platform makes sense.

[RamenJunkie_]

This is one thing I kind of hate about Mastodon.

And your example isn't even accurate to what is happening.

Imagine signing up for @gmail.com meant you can't send to anyone at @outlook.com because like 2 users on Outlook said something "kind of rude" if you take it out of context and get over sensetive about EVERYTHING.

Like, I am all for inclusion, and fuck rude people etc, but you can see an e tire instance blocked because one user was a jackass to one tiny server admin who stuck the offending instance on some unmoderated blacklist website with something vague like "hate speech".

Its over the top.

[nobody9999]

>They could have taken this as a big opportunity to make ActivityPub mainstream but nah, let's keep gatekeeping our bubbles. They're the only losing.

Just curious, what do you mean by "mainstream?" Did you really mean widespread adoption of ActivityPub (AP) or did you mean "one additional instance of an AP instance that has millions of users?"

Meta getting into the Fediverse doesn't do anything to make AP "mainstream," rather it exposes the existing users of the Fediverse to a single instance that has the users that many of those in the Fediverse setup/joined instances to get away from.

What's more, Meta's business model (hyping conflict and clickbait to drive engagement and ad revenue) is antithetical to many in the fediverse.

As such, it's not surprising that many admins don't want anything to do with them, as they've shown themselves to be bad actors on their own platform. And that's the main reason admins ban instances -- because they're (at least from the admin's point of view) bad actors.

It's almost enough to get me to federate my AP instances just so I can ban/block Meta. But I don't even want to federate with extant AP instances, so I won't bother.

[ThatPlayer]

I've seen some talk on my feed about servers potentially defederating mastodon.social if they don't defederate with Facebook. And that's "official" server hosted by the project and probably the biggest server. Definitely would make it confusing for those users who just want it to work when they can't interact with users on other servers.

[KSPAtlas]

Have you ever heard of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish?