[noirbot]

The cost is a big issue for me still. I get it, but I paid $15k for a car 10 years ago - small hatchback that's been more than enough for my needs. The only options I have for EVs are either 2-3x the size (Rivian, F150, Model X) or 4-5x the cost (Tesla, Lucid, Polestar), or both. I barely drive a hundred miles in a week, and often less, but having range to do a 2-3 hour road trip is a big bonus.

You can't even get a quality EV with a shorter range though for less than 50-70k. I'm not even sure I've spent that much on my car over the last decade, including gas, insurance, repairs, and initial cost. Makes it hard to justify the upgrade.

[foogazi]

> You can't even get a quality EV with a shorter range though for less than 50-70k.

Bolt EUV is around 30k

[spikels]

GM is ending production of the Bolt later this year. They lost money on every one they sold. GM CEO recently said they won’t be able to make sub-40k EVs until the end of this decade “maybe longer”. GM is really struggling with the transition to EVs. Ford is struggling too but at least has a plan…

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1139848_sub-40-000-evs-...

[foogazi]

But you can still get it today

[noirbot]

I suppose my curiosity there would be if it's a smart idea to buy a car model that's getting discontinued - would it be more difficult to get it repaired in the future? Will it be hard to get replacement parts later?

[defrost]

Sadly it's not anticipated to return to Australia;

    One reason it's shame we'll never see the Bolt on Australian roads is because it actually stemmed from an electric vehicle concept designed here by GM’s Australian design centre and went into production in 2017.

    Now, of course, with GM all-but out of Australia – apart from its ties to the shrunken GMSV outfit here – it's less likely than ever we'll ever see the Bolt models here.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/chevrolet-bolt-euv

[omgwtfbyobbq]

There were lease return iMiev, 500e, etc for about $4k-$10k in 2018, but the supply of those dried up.

[noirbot]

Yea, there was a brief experiment with smaller stuff 5ish years ago, but that seems to have dried up hard and left us with 2-ton trucks and SUVs or high end luxury sedans being the only options in the US for EVs.

Seems like there may be 500evs coming back next year, so may look into that.

[telotortium]

It's good that the Tesla charging port (NACS) is well on its way to becoming a cross-manufacturer standard in the US, so it may make more sense soon to have smaller EVs that don't need to have as large of a capacity to find the few Electrify America stations.