[rcxdude]

pyanodons really does seem like grind for the sake of grind. It's great if you're basically a utility monster for factorio's core gameplay and want as much of it as possible without any regard for repetition, or you really get a lot out of the satisfaction of achieving ridiculous goals, but most people are not likely to find it very fun, even if they liked seablock or SE.

[BlueTemplar]

pY is very much not repetition of vanilla, not only it pushes Factorio to its limits in terms of features and of course PC load (if not in the same way than the new SpaceX), part of the fun is to have MANY alternative ways to produce most of the things, then decide which one you want to use.