[zalew]

Yeah, similar in Poland. One who failed is a looser not worth listening to, because he did stuff wrong, ergo he doesn't know anything. I think that's one pretty demotivating factor of business cultures of European coutries (don't know if all though) compared to the American way where if you failed 10 times, you're 10 times more experienced. I was always amazed how people who had lots of failing businesses are invited as speakers to US conferences, something that seems impossible around here.